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No GoodI bought these to true and build mountain bike wheels usuing my park truing stand (the shop model) and after usuing it for a handfull of wheels I can say these are not any good. Not that they are BAD, but they are accurate everytime, which translates to wheels being off dish or you cant figure out why the wheel is not straightening up. I gave up, I bought some 12mm rod and used that for 12mm thru axle hub, and I am going to order those adapters that plug into the hub and have a little 9mm end to drop the hub into the stand normally.